nanogui@linuxhacker.org

Remember: we're running out of a 16 megabyte ramdisk this instant: even 
with 16 megabytes burned on ramdisk there is lots of space (until we use 
it up, that is!) much/most of which we get back as soon as we cut over to 
cramfs/jffs...  And in this configuration after X is running in our demo 
we still have something like 6 megabytes free.

Also, remember I've seen serious estimates of what could be done on the
GTK+ side, though that isn't under my control (I was asked not to make
them public, so I haven't circulated them).

Given the data I have in hand, I just refuse to be scared about going
with a more modern tookit and/or environment: the question is exactly
what, not whether.

Data is worth tons more than rapid hand movement.

And paying once for a good toolkit that returns alot by small executables
may be a very good trade.  The issue is really how many bytes a suite
of applications take, not the absolute size of the toolkit, which
may (or may not) be carrying its weight).

					- Jim

> Sender: imp@harmony.village.org
> From: Warner Losh <imp@village.org>
> Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 13:16:46 -0600
> To: "Greg Haerr" <greg@censoft.com>
> Cc: "Jim Gettys" <jg@pa.dec.com>,
>         "Matthew Kirkwood" <weejock@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk>,
>         "Alan Cox" <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
>         "Roberto Alsina" <ralsina@conectiva.com.ar>, nanogui@linuxhacker.org,
>         handhelds@handhelds.org, viewml-devel@viewml.com
> Subject: Re: [Handhelds] Re: Small open source web browser introduced
> -----
> In message <027101bff01c$da6a18c0$f617dbd0@censoft.com> "Greg Haerr" writes:
> : I wasn't saying that X+GTK=2.5MB, I was saying that GTK=2.5MB
> 
> The reduction would be enough to allow GTK to fit where only X would
> fit before.  I think that's what Jim was saying about reducing 1/2 of
> it.  I could be wrong....
> 
> However, gtk is very large when it comes to toolkits.  It is even
> bigger than OI (Object Interface, a C++ toolkit I worked on and sold
> in the early 1990s) and Motif.  Both of which are neat tricks. :-)
> 
> Warner

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Jim Gettys
Technology and Corporate Development
Compaq Computer Corporation
jg@pa.dec.com