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Subject: Microwindows & nano-X
From: Angel Martin Alganza ####@####.####
Date: 16 Jul 1999 18:23:35 -0000
Message-Id: <Pine.SOL.3.96.990716200953.16283I-100000@goliat>

Hello everybody!

I'm afraid I'm getting confuse about Microwindows and nano-X. I'm
following discussions, questions and answers for a while, hopping to fully
understand what's going on, but I don't seem to get it done. I would like
to know what actually both Microwindows and nano-X are and which platforms
and OSs are they being bult for. At first I though they where built for
ELKS only, but someone said he was testing it on Linux. There seem to be
some DOS examples (what are they? perhaps trial binaries for DOS?) at the
FTP site... I'm getting really confused now!

	Is there any documentation (I haven't been able to find anything)
which I could read to clear up things? I also would very much like to see
some screenshots. Someone offered to provide some a few days (perhaps some
weeks) ago... is there anythig available that I have missed?

Thanks a lot,
Angel

Subject: RE: Microwindows & nano-X
From: Greg Haerr ####@####.####
Date: 16 Jul 1999 18:33:14 -0000
Message-Id: <01BECF86.E048D770.greg@censoft.com>

: I'm afraid I'm getting confuse about Microwindows and nano-X. I'm
: following discussions, questions and answers for a while, hopping to fully
: understand what's going on, but I don't seem to get it done. I would like
: to know what actually both Microwindows and nano-X are

	Nano-X is a graphics library that implements an X-like api.
	MicroWindows is a graphics library that implements the win32 api.



 and which platforms
: and OSs are they being bult for.
	
	Both nano-X and microwindows are built in the makefile.
	They share the same lower-level driver technology.

	Currently, they will both build and execute on:

	ELKS v0.78
	MSDOS
	Linux 2.2.x with 8pp packed pixel framebuffer
	Linux 2.x with SVGAlib library


 At first I though they where built for
: ELKS only, but someone said he was testing it on Linux.

	All my development is initially performed on Linux, I've got many linux
boxes...


 There seem to be
: some DOS examples (what are they? perhaps trial binaries for DOS?) at the
: FTP site... I'm getting really confused now!

	There are precompiled binaries for DOS and ELKS in the
DOSExamples and ElksExamples directories....

: 
: 	Is there any documentation (I haven't been able to find anything)
: which I could read to clear up things?

	Read the INSTALL file in microwindows source mwin/src/INSTALL.
Also see the readme.txt file in ftp://microwindows.censoft.com/pub/microwindows

	I do need to build a FAQ, it seems.  There isn't one yet.

 I also would very much like to see
: some screenshots. Someone offered to provide some a few days (perhaps some
: weeks) ago... is there anythig available that I have missed?

	I can't get the programs that read the /dev/fb0 framebuffer to work,
so I can't build any danged screenshots.  The framebuffer is a very tricky,
hard to use design, IMHO.

Greg

Subject: RE: Microwindows & nano-X
From: Angel Martin Alganza ####@####.####
Date: 19 Jul 1999 19:25:13 -0000
Message-Id: <Pine.SOL.3.96.990719211257.10235A-100000@goliat>

On Fri, 16 Jul 1999, Greg Haerr wrote:

> 	There are precompiled binaries for DOS and ELKS in the
> DOSExamples and ElksExamples directories....

Would it be possible to have binaries for Linux as well? My compilling
skills are not very good, and have had some trouble while trying to get
them compiled in my Linux box. I don't have much time to play around at
this time, but would love to have a look at both microwin and nano-X and
give my comments (and perhaps suggestions) on them.

> 	I do need to build a FAQ, it seems.  There isn't one yet.

That would be excellent... Perhaps a Q to add (what a way to ask another
question! :))) would be: Will it be possible to run X applications on top
of nano-X?

Thanks a lot,
Angel

Subject: RE: Microwindows & nano-X
From: Greg Haerr ####@####.####
Date: 19 Jul 1999 19:36:55 -0000
Message-Id: <01BED1EB.48CA9BB0.greg@censoft.com>

On Monday, July 19, 1999 1:18 PM, Angel Martin Alganza ####@####.#### wrote:
: On Fri, 16 Jul 1999, Greg Haerr wrote:
: 
: > 	There are precompiled binaries for DOS and ELKS in the
: > DOSExamples and ElksExamples directories....
: 
: Would it be possible to have binaries for Linux as well? My compilling
: skills are not very good, and have had some trouble while trying to get
: them compiled in my Linux box. I don't have much time to play around at
: this time, but would love to have a look at both microwin and nano-X and
: give my comments (and perhaps suggestions) on them.
: 

	Yeah, I can do all that.  Give me a little time.  I'm much more the programmer
than text hacker....

Greg
Subject: RE: Microwindows & nano-X
From: Alex Holden ####@####.####
Date: 20 Jul 1999 08:19:56 -0000
Message-Id: <Pine.LNX.4.04.9907200918110.1767-100000@www.linuxhacker.org>

> On Fri, 16 Jul 1999, Greg Haerr wrote:
> 	I do need to build a FAQ, it seems.  There isn't one yet.

There is a Nano-X FAQ linked from the website.
Let me know if you want any questions adding to it.

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Subject: RE: Microwindows & nano-X
From: Greg Haerr ####@####.####
Date: 20 Jul 1999 17:30:21 -0000
Message-Id: <01BED2A2.DC3E2DF0.greg@censoft.com>

On Tuesday, July 20, 1999 2:20 AM, Alex Holden ####@####.#### wrote:
: > On Fri, 16 Jul 1999, Greg Haerr wrote:
: > 	I do need to build a FAQ, it seems.  There isn't one yet.
: 
: There is a Nano-X FAQ linked from the website.
: Let me know if you want any questions adding to it.
: 

	Yes, I'd like to add a number of questions.  I'll prepare a list shortly.

	BTW, how's your nano-X stuff coming?

Greg
Subject: RE: Microwindows & nano-X
From: Alex Holden ####@####.####
Date: 20 Jul 1999 17:33:04 -0000
Message-Id: <Pine.LNX.4.04.9907201831330.1767-100000@www.linuxhacker.org>

On Tue, 20 Jul 1999, Greg Haerr wrote:
> Yes, I'd like to add a number of questions.  I'll prepare a list
> shortly.

Ok.

> 	BTW, how's your nano-X stuff coming?

What there is (which isn't much) is in the CVS.

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