gnupic: Thread: where to start?

Guys,

I have a Suse 6.3 distribution installed, with the KDE desktop, and
numerous other bits and pieces. But where do I start with PIC
development?

What is available for download? Both ready to run binaries and source?

I guess I need things like an assembler (GPASM?), simulator (GPSIM?), C
compiler? (I think I may have the HiTech compiler for Linux on the CD).

How do I know if the GNU environment is set up? Where are things loaded?


Tons of questions I know, but that's just a measure of my ignorance!

Any good gui type FTP clients? Suse comes with LLNL XFTP, but this prog
bombs out after connecting - don't know why.

All help appreciated.

Rgds...

...Andy

Hi Andy,

I assume that you're familiar with PIC microcontrollers (other wise you wouldn't
know about HiTech or the gnupic project). I further assume that you're
relatively new to Linux and are more familiar with windows. 

On Fri, 14 Apr 2000, Andy Stephenson wrote:

> Guys,
> 
> I have a Suse 6.3 distribution installed, with the KDE desktop, and
> numerous other bits and pieces. But where do I start with PIC
> development?

If you want to impress your friends then get Enlightenment and Eterm - but that
has nothing to do with PIC development.

http://www.enlightenment.org/

I just noticed that 16.4 is out. (And now that XFree86 version 4.0 is out I
guess I've got some upgrading to do...)

> 
> What is available for download? Both ready to run binaries and source?
> 
> I guess I need things like an assembler (GPASM?), simulator (GPSIM?), C
> compiler? (I think I may have the HiTech compiler for Linux on the CD).

You may wish to visit http://www.gnupic.org/

There you'll find the links to many of the various tools that are available. But
besides gpasm and gpsim the only other tool you'll need is a programmer. I use
Microchip's PicStart+ and Andrew Pine's Linux driver.


> How do I know if the GNU environment is set up? Where are things loaded?
> 

If you installed SuSe chances are everything is set up already. I'm not sure
which version og Gtk is distributed with SuSe 6.3 though. As far as where things
are loaded, well I'm not sure what you mean exactly. I guess they can be loaded
where ever you want. Often times packages will by default install themselves
into /usr/local but there is no set standard. You can use the 'locate' command
to find where things are stored on your disk. 

> 
> Tons of questions I know, but that's just a measure of my ignorance!
> 

We need to create a FAQ that addresses new gnupic users like your self. But for
now... just ask the questions and we'll answer away.

> Any good gui type FTP clients? Suse comes with LLNL XFTP, but this prog
> bombs out after connecting - don't know why.

I use ncftp. 



Scott

Scott Dattalo wrote:
> 
> Hi Andy,
> 
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> 
> > Any good gui type FTP clients? Suse comes with LLNL XFTP, but this prog
> > bombs out after connecting - don't know why.
> 
> I use ncftp.
> 
> Scott

The xftp that comes with SuSE 6.3 seems to have a problem.  I have the
same exact problem and I also use SuSE 6.3.  I use console ftp.

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Andy Stephenson wrote:
> 
> Guys,
> 
> I have a Suse 6.3 distribution installed, with the KDE desktop, and
> numerous other bits and pieces. But where do I start with PIC
> development?
> 
You got it right, grab GPASM AND GPSIM and other accessories from
www.dattalo.com/gnupic/gpsim.html.
but also get picp from www.cosmodog.com/pic/

Scott - can you send this guy the list of other sites you sent to my
boss once, had more than this but included these two sites.

> What is available for download? Both ready to run binaries and source?
> 
Generally because it's Linux you'll only find source, but they are in
tarballs and/or .rpm files.

> I guess I need things like an assembler (GPASM?), simulator (GPSIM?), C
> compiler? (I think I may have the HiTech compiler for Linux on the CD).
> 
Yep the linux compiler is on a CD, I use it quite frequently at work.
Does the job wonderfully. Only problem is that the latest release of
Hitech 'PICC' (7.86) they forgot about the Linux version. But I haven't
seen any bugs yet anyway, even the CONFIG bits and Data EEPROM can be
compiled for the new Flash parts, very impressive (and i don't even have
shares in Hitech.

> How do I know if the GNU environment is set up? Where are things loaded?
> 
Scott answered this, and I don't really know what you mean.
Do you mean, will you hvae to tweak KDE to get GPSIM working - probably
not.
If you mean, what drivers need to be installed, well try installing the
package and see what it says. It might be fine... if you find problems
with gpsim and libreadline.so contact myself or Scott as we've worked
through this one.

> Tons of questions I know, but that's just a measure of my ignorance!
> 
> Any good gui type FTP clients? Suse comes with LLNL XFTP, but this prog
> bombs out after connecting - don't know why.

Another console ftp user .... never thought about anything else.

Matt
> 
> All help appreciated.
> 
> Rgds...
> 
> ...Andy
> 
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On Mon, 17 Apr 2000, Matthew Bowles wrote:

> Andy Stephenson wrote:
> > 
> > Guys,
> > 
> > I have a Suse 6.3 distribution installed, with the KDE desktop, and
> > numerous other bits and pieces. But where do I start with PIC
> > development?
> > 
> You got it right, grab GPASM AND GPSIM and other accessories from
> www.dattalo.com/gnupic/gpsim.html.
> but also get picp from www.cosmodog.com/pic/
> 
> Scott - can you send this guy the list of other sites you sent to my
> boss once, had more than this but included these two sites.

Who's your boss? 

I'm fairly certain http://www.dattalo.com/gnupic/gpsim.html and
http://www.gnupic.org/ have all of the links to all of the resources one needs
to get started. What is really needed is a gnupic-HOWTO document... Anybody care
to create one?

Scott