nanogui: Thread: microwindows ..

Hi, 

I'm new to microwindows. 
I'm using SH3 processor. Linux kernel and some drivers 
seems to work on it and I can talk to system trough the 
console now.

How can I integrate microwindows and my kernel ? 

What output file from microwindows should I add to my
kernel image and how can it be started when system boot up?

Thank you
Kyoung Kim

I set up cross-compile environment in Arch.rules and 
compiled microwindows successfully.   
I found several new library in /src/lib directory
and found all sources in /src/mwin were compiled
and obj files are created.
What is my next step ? 

Thank you, 
Kyoung Kim

-----Original Message-----
From: KIM,KYOUNG-IL (HP-Cupertino,ex1)
To: ####@####.####
Sent: 9/22/00 7:02 PM
Subject: microwindows ..

Hi, 

I'm new to microwindows. 
I'm using SH3 processor. Linux kernel and some drivers 
seems to work on it and I can talk to system trough the 
console now.

How can I integrate microwindows and my kernel ? 

What output file from microwindows should I add to my
kernel image and how can it be started when system boot up?

Thank you
Kyoung Kim

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On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, KIM,KYOUNG-IL (HP-Cupertino,ex1) wrote:
> How can I integrate microwindows and my kernel ? 

Why do you want to do that? It's not a good idea to put the window server
in the kernel for many reasons, including:

A bug can crash the whole machine due to the lack of memory protection.
The stack is quite limited in size.
Only a very limited subset of the libc functions are available.
Getting access to things like the framebuffer, keyboard and mouse input
can be awkward.
The kernel malloc() implementation probably isn't very well suited to the
application.
You have to recompile the kernel and reboot the machine with the new
kernel image in order to upgrade to a new version of the server (unless
it's a module, which seems to defeat your object of having it compiled
into the kernel).
You probably won't even see any significant speed improvements, due to the
aggregation of requests into blocks.
Memory in kernel space can't be swapped out, however tight memory is.

> What output file from microwindows should I add to my
> kernel image and how can it be started when system boot up?

What you would be better doing is simply putting the executable in your
RAM disk and starting it from init.

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> > What output file from microwindows should I add to my
> > kernel image and how can it be started when system boot up?
> 
> What you would be better doing is simply putting the executable in your
> RAM disk and starting it from init.

Yes.  Just copy one of the microwin/src/bin files (like mdemo) to your
ramdisk image, and start it up from /etc/inittab.

Regards,

Greg

Even if you don't have touch panel driver now, 
You can run demo program if your frame buffer driver 
is working properly.  And, instead of touch panel,
you can use serial mouse or keyboard if your target 
has those.   

Kyoung Kim

-----Original Message-----
From: Jaswinder Singh
To: ####@####.####
Cc: ####@####.#### ####@####.####
Sent: 10/15/00 8:41 PM
Subject: RE:microwindows..

Dear Masanori-san and Kyoung Kim,

Is your touch panel interface working ? 

Without touch panel interface , i think there is no
use of microwindows or any other windows system .What
you say about this ?

Best Regards,

Jaswinder.


--- Masanori TOKUNAGA ####@####.####
wrote:
> 
> Hi:
> 
> I am intereting in Microwindows on SH3, too.
> I want to use Microwindows on linux-sh(HP690).
> 
> After that, what did you do?
> 
> --
> Masanori
> 
> --
>        Subject: RE: microwindows ..
>        From: "KIM,KYOUNG-IL (HP-Cupertino,ex1)"
> ####@####.####
>        Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 21:20:40 -0600
> 
> 
> 
>        I set up cross-compile environment in
> Arch.rules and
>        compiled microwindows successfully.
>        I found several new library in /src/lib
> directory
>        and found all sources in /src/mwin were
> compiled
>        and obj files are created.
>        What is my next step ?
> 
>        Thank you,
>        Kyoung Kim
> 
>        -----Original Message-----
>        From: KIM,KYOUNG-IL (HP-Cupertino,ex1)
>        To: ####@####.####
>        Sent: 9/22/00 7:02 PM
>        Subject: microwindows ..
> 
>        Hi,
> 
>        I'm new to microwindows.
>        I'm using SH3 processor. Linux kernel and
> some drivers
>        seems to work on it and I can talk to system
> trough the
>        console now.
> 
>        How can I integrate microwindows and my
> kernel ?
> 
>        What output file from microwindows should I
> add to my
>        kernel image and how can it be started when
> system boot up?
> 
>        Thank you
>        Kyoung Kim
> 
> 


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Hi,
I don't know serial driver well.
I plan to serial mouse.What do you say about this?

Regards,

Masanori.

Jaswinder Singh wrote:

> Dear Masanori-san and Kyoung Kim,
>
> Is your touch panel interface working ?
>
> Without touch panel interface , i think there is no
> use of microwindows or any other windows system .What
> you say about this ?
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Jaswinder.
>
> --- Masanori TOKUNAGA ####@####.####
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi:
> >
> > I am intereting in Microwindows on SH3, too.
> > I want to use Microwindows on linux-sh(HP690).
> >
> > After that, what did you do?
> >
> > --
> > Masanori
> >
> > --
> >        Subject: RE: microwindows ..
> >        From: "KIM,KYOUNG-IL (HP-Cupertino,ex1)"
> > ####@####.####
> >        Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 21:20:40 -0600
> >
> >
> >
> >        I set up cross-compile environment in
> > Arch.rules and
> >        compiled microwindows successfully.
> >        I found several new library in /src/lib
> > directory
> >        and found all sources in /src/mwin were
> > compiled
> >        and obj files are created.
> >        What is my next step ?
> >
> >        Thank you,
> >        Kyoung Kim
> >
> >        -----Original Message-----
> >        From: KIM,KYOUNG-IL (HP-Cupertino,ex1)
> >        To: ####@####.####
> >        Sent: 9/22/00 7:02 PM
> >        Subject: microwindows ..
> >
> >        Hi,
> >
> >        I'm new to microwindows.
> >        I'm using SH3 processor. Linux kernel and
> > some drivers
> >        seems to work on it and I can talk to system
> > trough the
> >        console now.
> >
> >        How can I integrate microwindows and my
> > kernel ?
> >
> >        What output file from microwindows should I
> > add to my
> >        kernel image and how can it be started when
> > system boot up?
> >
> >        Thank you
> >        Kyoung Kim
> >
> >
>
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TOKUNAGA ####@####.####

Dear Kyoung Kim,

yes , i know this .

Keyboard will help only 40 to 50 percent . thats it .
Exactly we require either serial mouse or touch panel
interface .

If your machine supports touch-panel interface , then
i think using serial mouse is wastage of resources .

Are you having working serial mouse for your machine ?

BTW, what is your machine ?

Best Regards,

Jaswinder.


--- "KIM,KYOUNG-IL (HP-Cupertino,ex1)"
####@####.#### wrote:
> Even if you don't have touch panel driver now, 
> You can run demo program if your frame buffer driver
> 
> is working properly.  And, instead of touch panel,
> you can use serial mouse or keyboard if your target 
> has those.   
> 
> Kyoung Kim
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jaswinder Singh
> To: ####@####.####
> Cc: ####@####.####
> ####@####.####
> Sent: 10/15/00 8:41 PM
> Subject: RE:microwindows..
> 
> Dear Masanori-san and Kyoung Kim,
> 
> Is your touch panel interface working ? 
> 
> Without touch panel interface , i think there is no
> use of microwindows or any other windows system
> .What
> you say about this ?
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Jaswinder.
> 
> 
> --- Masanori TOKUNAGA ####@####.####
> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi:
> > 
> > I am intereting in Microwindows on SH3, too.
> > I want to use Microwindows on linux-sh(HP690).
> > 
> > After that, what did you do?
> > 
> > --
> > Masanori
> > 
> > --
> >        Subject: RE: microwindows ..
> >        From: "KIM,KYOUNG-IL (HP-Cupertino,ex1)"
> > ####@####.####
> >        Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 21:20:40 -0600
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >        I set up cross-compile environment in
> > Arch.rules and
> >        compiled microwindows successfully.
> >        I found several new library in /src/lib
> > directory
> >        and found all sources in /src/mwin were
> > compiled
> >        and obj files are created.
> >        What is my next step ?
> > 
> >        Thank you,
> >        Kyoung Kim
> > 
> >        -----Original Message-----
> >        From: KIM,KYOUNG-IL (HP-Cupertino,ex1)
> >        To: ####@####.####
> >        Sent: 9/22/00 7:02 PM
> >        Subject: microwindows ..
> > 
> >        Hi,
> > 
> >        I'm new to microwindows.
> >        I'm using SH3 processor. Linux kernel and
> > some drivers
> >        seems to work on it and I can talk to
> system
> > trough the
> >        console now.
> > 
> >        How can I integrate microwindows and my
> > kernel ?
> > 
> >        What output file from microwindows should I
> > add to my
> >        kernel image and how can it be started when
> > system boot up?
> > 
> >        Thank you
> >        Kyoung Kim
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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Dear Masanori-san,

In case of HP690 , i suggest you to use touch panel
interface.

Best Regards ,

Jaswinder.


--- Masanori TOKUNAGA ####@####.####
wrote:
> Hi,
> I don't know serial driver well.
> I plan to serial mouse.What do you say about this?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Masanori.
> 
> Jaswinder Singh wrote:
> 
> > Dear Masanori-san and Kyoung Kim,
> >
> > Is your touch panel interface working ?
> >
> > Without touch panel interface , i think there is
> no
> > use of microwindows or any other windows system
> .What
> > you say about this ?
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Jaswinder.
> >
> > --- Masanori TOKUNAGA ####@####.####
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi:
> > >
> > > I am intereting in Microwindows on SH3, too.
> > > I want to use Microwindows on linux-sh(HP690).
> > >
> > > After that, what did you do?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Masanori
> > >
> > > --
> > >        Subject: RE: microwindows ..
> > >        From: "KIM,KYOUNG-IL (HP-Cupertino,ex1)"
> > > ####@####.####
> > >        Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 21:20:40 -0600
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >        I set up cross-compile environment in
> > > Arch.rules and
> > >        compiled microwindows successfully.
> > >        I found several new library in /src/lib
> > > directory
> > >        and found all sources in /src/mwin were
> > > compiled
> > >        and obj files are created.
> > >        What is my next step ?
> > >
> > >        Thank you,
> > >        Kyoung Kim
> > >
> > >        -----Original Message-----
> > >        From: KIM,KYOUNG-IL (HP-Cupertino,ex1)
> > >        To: ####@####.####
> > >        Sent: 9/22/00 7:02 PM
> > >        Subject: microwindows ..
> > >
> > >        Hi,
> > >
> > >        I'm new to microwindows.
> > >        I'm using SH3 processor. Linux kernel and
> > > some drivers
> > >        seems to work on it and I can talk to
> system
> > > trough the
> > >        console now.
> > >
> > >        How can I integrate microwindows and my
> > > kernel ?
> > >
> > >        What output file from microwindows should
> I
> > > add to my
> > >        kernel image and how can it be started
> when
> > > system boot up?
> > >
> > >        Thank you
> > >        Kyoung Kim
> > >
> > >
> >
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