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Subject:
tcl/tk
From: Sven Geggus ####@####.#### Date: 7 May 2000 13:14:55 -0000 Message-Id: <20000507151357.A3915@diesel.geggus.net> Hi there, I am very interested in the microwindows efforts. Is there any plan of porting the tcl/tk scripting language to this environment? I would expect that this could be done on a win32 API base as well as a Xlib base. Please send Email Reply´s as well, as I´m not on your list. Sven -- Microsoft Outlook, the Software which made the "Good Times" Email-virus Hoax a reality. /me is giggls@ircnet, http://geggus.net/sven/ on the Web | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Subject:
Re: tcl/tk
From: "Greg Haerr" ####@####.#### Date: 7 May 2000 17:27:21 -0000 Message-Id: <1bfe01bfb849$8143f0a0$15320cd0@gregh> : Is there any plan of porting the tcl/tk scripting language to this : environment? Not currently. If you'd like to host the project, that would be great. : : I would expect that this could be done on a win32 API base as well as a Xlib : base. The win32 api base is fairly complete for the basic stuff, except for Pie, Arc and Chord, which I'm working on adding currently. You might try compiling up your favorite tcl/tk implementation and linking with the win32 Microwindows libraries, just to see which portions remain unimplemented. If you do this, please send me the results, I'd be happy to add whatever else is needed. Regards, Greg | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Subject:
Re: tcl/tk
From: Scott Redman ####@####.#### Date: 8 May 2000 15:46:33 -0000 Message-Id: <3916DC95.66FC84F2@scriptics.com> Actually, Jeff Hobbs (the Tcl Guy) and I were discussing this recently. Our company, Scriptics Corp, maintains the Tcl/Tk core and I have been involved with LinuxCE (at least partially) for a long time. Jeff is getting interested, and there might be a few others that might be interested in porting to Microwindows or NanoGUI (they might see this email, or I might send to them directly later). It seems like there is critical mass now, Jeff and I will discuss hosting the web site and the CVS repository for this port. I'll send email after I talk to him... FYI, Tcl works fine on LinuxCE almost out-of-the-box (you only need to tweak the makefiles). Tk will run just fine with an X Server, at least on the Vadem Clio anyway. Since X is probably too big, Microwindows and/or NanoGUI are interesting. -- Scott Sven Geggus wrote: > > Hi there, > > I am very interested in the microwindows efforts. > > Is there any plan of porting the tcl/tk scripting language to this > environment? > > I would expect that this could be done on a win32 API base as well as a Xlib > base. > > Please send Email Reply´s as well, as I´m not on your list. > > Sven > > -- > Microsoft Outlook, the Software which made the "Good Times" > Email-virus Hoax a reality. > > /me is giggls@ircnet, http://geggus.net/sven/ on the Web > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: ####@####.#### > For additional commands, e-mail: ####@####.#### | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Subject:
Re: tcl/tk
From: Scott Redman ####@####.#### Date: 8 May 2000 15:46:40 -0000 Message-Id: <3916DD72.B2D6ECCC@scriptics.com> > The win32 api base is fairly complete for the basic stuff, except > for Pie, Arc and Chord, which I'm working on adding currently. > > You might try compiling up your favorite tcl/tk implementation > and linking with the win32 Microwindows libraries, just to see > which portions remain unimplemented. If you do this, please > send me the results, I'd be happy to add whatever else is needed. > Actually, given the Win32 port's reliance on the Win32 architecture this isn't as easy as you might think. It might be easier to work with the NanoGUI code, but we're considering both options now. It might be possible to rework the Win32 X Emulation Layer in Tk to work with Microwindows. But, this will take a lot of work, IMHO. -- Scott | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Subject:
Re: tcl/tk
From: "Greg Haerr" ####@####.#### Date: 8 May 2000 16:09:59 -0000 Message-Id: <1d5401bfb907$dcd94780$15320cd0@gregh> : Actually, given the Win32 port's reliance on the Win32 architecture : this isn't as easy as you might think. It might be easier to work : with the NanoGUI code, but we're considering both options now. : Microwindows' win32 semantics are pretty accurate. All of the erasebkgnd, paint and DC handling are almost exactly like win32. In addition, private DC's are supported, as well as user clip regions. What aspects are you thinking differ? : It might be possible to rework the Win32 X Emulation Layer in Tk : to work with Microwindows. But, this will take a lot of work, : IMHO. Usually the win32 port can be performed with just a few changes that would be #ifdef MWIN Regards, Greg | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Subject:
RE: tcl/tk
From: "Scott Redman" ####@####.#### Date: 8 May 2000 16:55:50 -0000 Message-Id: <NDBBKOKBCMMALHMJIHNLIEKCCGAA.redman@scriptics.com> It's not really the GDI layer that I'm worried about, but rather the rest of the (non-GUI) Win32 API. The entire event notifier on Windows is different than on Unix (which uses select()), and I'm worried that the Win32 Tk code will depend on the Windows version of the notifier, and a few other things. Tk is really rather complicated, and probably does a lot of things you don't expect a scripting widget set to be doing. I'm going to talk to Jeff when he gets in, since he is a lot familiar with all of it than I am. -- Scott > -----Original Message----- > From: Greg Haerr ####@####.#### > Sent: Monday, May 08, 2000 9:10 AM > To: Scott Redman; ####@####.#### > Subject: Re: tcl/tk > > > : Actually, given the Win32 port's reliance on the Win32 architecture > : this isn't as easy as you might think. It might be easier to work > : with the NanoGUI code, but we're considering both options now. > : > > Microwindows' win32 semantics are pretty accurate. All of the > erasebkgnd, paint and DC handling are almost exactly like win32. > In addition, private DC's are supported, as well as user clip regions. > > What aspects are you thinking differ? > > > > : It might be possible to rework the Win32 X Emulation Layer in Tk > : to work with Microwindows. But, this will take a lot of work, > : IMHO. > > Usually the win32 port can be performed with just a few changes > that would be #ifdef MWIN > > Regards, > > Greg > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: ####@####.#### > For additional commands, e-mail: ####@####.#### > | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Subject:
Re: tcl/tk
From: "Greg Haerr" ####@####.#### Date: 8 May 2000 19:26:46 -0000 Message-Id: <044e01bfb923$97d55e00$3017dbd0@censoft.com> : It's not really the GDI layer that I'm worried about, but rather : the rest of the (non-GUI) Win32 API. The entire event notifier : on Windows is different than on Unix (which uses select()), and : I'm worried that the Win32 Tk code will depend on the Windows : version of the notifier, and a few other things. Yes, I understand. The Microwindows GDI model also implements all the GetMessage/DispatchMessage semantics with a smaller set of WM_xxx messages, however. The select() mechanism is completely hidden from the win32 application. You might take a look at the sample programs in src/demo/mwin to get a feel. : Regards, Greg | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Subject:
Tcl/Tk
From: Yan Seiner ####@####.#### Date: 6 Apr 2007 02:01:12 +0100 Message-Id: <46159BA0.8080202@seiner.com> Does anyone know what I'd have to do to get Tcl/Tk to run on Microwindows? Thanks, --Yan | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Subject:
Re: [nanogui] Tcl/Tk
From: "Greg Haerr" ####@####.#### Date: 7 Apr 2007 04:13:57 +0100 Message-Id: <049d01c778c2$9fd7d860$2f01a8c0@HaydenLake> : Does anyone know what I'd have to do to get Tcl/Tk to run on Microwindows? Is there a version of Tcl/Tk that uses just Xlib? Have you tried running with NXLIB? NXLIB will run unmodified X11 binaries, replace Xlib.so with the version created by NXLIB to test. Regards, Greg | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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