nanogui: Thread: Some questions about nano-gui?

Hi all,
  I'm beginer of nano-gui, some questions about it I want to know. 1> How many people are there in our mail list? 2> Since I'm Chinese, I'm interest in i18n. Can Nano-X support Asia character-set include input and out put? If not, How can I do it? Maybe Asian in our mail-list are interest it.

Best regards,
Guo.

:   I'm beginer of nano-gui, some questions about it I want to know. 1> How many
people are there in our mail list? 2> Since I'm Chinese, I'm interest in i18n.
Can Nano-X support Asia character-set include input and out put? If not, How can
I do it? Maybe Asian in our mail-list are interest it.

I'd be very interested in seeing Chinese support through our new
unicode-based truetype fonts, using freetype.

Most folks agree that UTF-8 encoding for 16 bit unicode is
the way to go.  Check out microwin/src/engine/devfont.c
for the specific implementation of our ascii/utf8/ucs2 translation
routines.

Regards,

Greg

On Fri, 14 Apr 2000, ¹ùÇ¿ wrote:
> How many people are there in our mail list?

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¹ùÇ¿ wrote:

> Hi all,
>   I'm beginer of nano-gui, some questions about it I want to know. 1> How many people are there in our mail list? 2> Since I'm Chinese, I'm interest in i18n. Can Nano-X support Asia character-set include input and out put? If not, How can I do it? Maybe Asian in our mail-list are interest it.
>
> Best regards,
> Guo.

For your information, I've been able to display japanese with the truetype font support using the msmincho.ttf from microsoft and the utf-8 support ...

Regards,

Martin Jolicoeur
GVT Project
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Mr. Jolicoeur,
> For your information, I've been able to display japanese with the truetype font support using the msmincho.ttf from microsoft and the utf-8 support ...

    How do you do that? I'm so interest it. I'm a beginner and need help cordially.

Best regards,
Guo

¹ùÇ¿ wrote:

> Mr. Jolicoeur,
> > For your information, I've been able to display japanese with the truetype font support using the msmincho.ttf from microsoft and the utf-8 support ...
>
>     How do you do that? I'm so interest it. I'm a beginner and need help cordially.
>
> Best regards,
> Guo

First, you need to have a truetype font file with the language you want (If you have a chinese version of windows, you probably already have many in the
/windows/fonts directory ). Personnally, I tested with the msmincho.ttf from microsoft (It has hiragana, katakana and kanji fonts), I think I got it from
the word 97 cdrom, don't remember. (Or you can download the far east package somewhere on the microsoft site)

Secondly, you need to generate a text file in utf-8 or unicode-16 format. Here's what I did: you type your text in say, word 97 or word 2000, in chinese.
then you save your file in the format "coded text". Word 97 can save only in unicode-16 format but Word 2000 can save in utf-8, utf-7, unicode-16,
unicode-32 , .... (it will ask you which kind of coding you want once you say you want to save as "coded text")

Then, you take as example the demo program ftdemo.c in /demos/nanox/, rewrite it for your needs replacing the file "ftdemo.txt" with your previous text and
the font file with your selected one. For the seventh argument of the GrText call, you or with GR_TFUTF8 (if your text is in utf-8) or GR_TFUC16 (if your
text is in unicode-16) ....

Regards,

Martin Jolicoeur
GVT Project
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Hi, all:
    I have gotten perfact Chinese displaying by your guides, special thank you! And, how could I get normal font(non-ture type one)? True type fonts are so big.
Best regards,
Guo.

¹ùÇ¿ wrote:

> Hi, all:
>     I have gotten perfact Chinese displaying by your guides, special thank you! And, how could I get normal font(non-ture type one)? True type fonts are so big.
> Best regards,
> Guo.

Chinese font files are everything but small, due to the number f glyphs .... However, you may try bitmap font files.  (like .bdf) Look here:

http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/unicode.html

under the topic "Where do I find ISO 10646-1 X11 fonts?"

or search fonts on the page:

http://cgm.cs.mcgill.ca/~luc/fonts.html

I don't know if bitmap font files will work for anything other than english under microwindows, tough. I don't think these files have unicode tables (to convert
from encoded text to glyph index in the file). You'll have to dig into that matter yourself as I'm personnaly only using truetype fonts for multi-language support
....

Good Luck

Martin Jolicoeur
GVT Project
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Mr.Jolicoeur,
  Thank for you help. I'll try it. As Chinese, I can get Chinese fonts easy. Thank you!

Best regards,
Guo.

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Subject: Re: Some questions about nano-gui?


> Chinese font files are everything but small, due to the number f glyphs .... However, you may try bitmap font files.  (like .bdf) Look here:
> 
> http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/unicode.html
> 
> under the topic "Where do I find ISO 10646-1 X11 fonts?"
> 
> or search fonts on the page:
> 
> http://cgm.cs.mcgill.ca/~luc/fonts.html
> 
> I don't know if bitmap font files will work for anything other than english under microwindows, tough. I don't think these files have unicode tables (to convert
> from encoded text to glyph index in the file). You'll have to dig into that matter yourself as I'm personnaly only using truetype fonts for multi-language support
> ...
> 
> Good Luck
> 
> Martin Jolicoeur
> GVT Project
> ####@####.####
> 

: I don't know if bitmap font files will work for anything other than english
under microwindows, tough. I don't think these files have unicode tables (to
convert
: from encoded text to glyph index in the file). You'll have to dig into that
matter yourself as I'm personnaly only using truetype fonts for multi-language
support


Currently, the compiled bitmap font files (converted from bdf with the
supplied convbdf program) use an 8 bit index to get the glyph from the
code.  I was going to extend these to UNICODE but decided against
it since that would require that a UNICODE table be present in each
compiled font, which would make them large, and the compiled fonts
probably want to remain small.

However, we could add a unicode table pointer member element
to the compiled fonts, which, when non-null, is used to convert a
unicode-16 index into a character, possibly using a start and length
value to make the table sparse...  Are the chinese characters
contiguous in Unicode?

Regards,

Greg





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