nanogui: Thread: Linux newbie : how to install MicroWindows on windows ?

I downloaded MicroWindows 0.89 pre7,
how to install it to my PC?
I just run vc6.0, and bulid it,find many error info.
I use window advanced 2000 now.
sorry for my stupid question, please help me!

Regards

Jerry

On Fri, 22 Jun 2001, scq wrote:
> I downloaded MicroWindows 0.89 pre7,
> how to install it to my PC?
> I just run vc6.0, and bulid it,find many error info.
> I use window advanced 2000 now.

Microwindows does not currently run on top of Win32 based systems.

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You can install the DJGPP compiler suite. This would enable you to 
compile and run MicroWindows (but not Nano-X I believe, as it requires
unix UDP sockets) on a M$ windows machine.

The actual compiling and running is done in a DOS terminal window.

DJGPP can be got from:
http://www.delorie.com/djgpp/

Question: Has anyone tried using Microwindows with Cygwin??

If you want to use the CVS source (rather than a pre-package 'tar.gz'
you'll also need to install a CVS client. Check out usual shareware
sites for this....

Have fun, drop me a note if you need more information.
Simon Wood

PS. You would be far better off if you installed GNU/Linux ;-)

> Microwindows does not currently run on top of Win32 based systems.

There's a fun project for somebody with lots of time and patience.  
Jordan

On Thursday 28 June 2001 03:02, Alex Holden mentioned:
> On Fri, 22 Jun 2001, scq wrote:
> > I downloaded MicroWindows 0.89 pre7,
> > how to install it to my PC?
> > I just run vc6.0, and bulid it,find many error info.
> > I use window advanced 2000 now.
>

Hi Jerry,

Microwindows is designed to run with GCC (GNU C Compiler). You wil 
hae alot of work ahead of you if you want to get it to work with 
Visual C++. If you want to develope on a Windows machine get a GNU 
cross compiler built for Cygwin. 
http://www.cygnus.com/cygwin/ 

You could (should) also build on a Linux host. 

Either way you will need a Linux (RTEMS, eCos, VxWorks) target to run 
your Microwindows application on. It wil not run on Windows 2000 
targets.

If you decide to try on a Linux machine start here:
http://home.twcny.rr.com/embedded/microwin/install/index.html


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> I downloaded MicroWindows 0.89 pre7,
> how to install it to my PC?
> I just run vc6.0, and bulid it,find many error info.
> I use window advanced 2000 now.
> sorry for my stupid question, please help me!
> 
> Regards
> 
> Jerry
> 
> 



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: Microwindows is designed to run with GCC (GNU C Compiler). You wil 
: hae alot of work ahead of you if you want to get it to work with 
: Visual C++. 

Actually, this isn't quite true.  Microwindows is designed to be as
portable as possible, and runs with a variety of C compilers.  For
instance, compilation for 16-bit MSDOS is currently supported
using MSC v5.1.

Getting Microwindows to compile with VC++ shouldn't be a big effort,
but getting Microwindows to run on Windows itself is a larger effort,
which I think Gary is referring to.  Actually, getting Nano-X to run
on Windows should be a straight-forward port: just write a screen,
mouse and kbd driver.  The big problem is with the win32 side of
Microwindows, which uses exactly the same API function names
as win32 itself, which means there would need to be some fancy
.def file madness for redirecting linker refs and defs...

Regards,

Greg

> Getting Microwindows to compile with VC++ shouldn't be a big effort,
> but getting Microwindows to run on Windows itself is a larger effort,
> which I think Gary is referring to.  Actually, getting Nano-X to run
> on Windows should be a straight-forward port: just write a screen,
> mouse and kbd driver. 

Will Windows sockets give you the functionality you need for UNIX sockets, or 
do you need to have some sort of IPC to communicate with the server?

I would think that even if you choose not to include sockets, you would need 
CYGWIN and a whole lot of luck to compile.

Jordan

On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Jordan Crouse wrote:
> Will Windows sockets give you the functionality you need for UNIX sockets, or 
> do you need to have some sort of IPC to communicate with the server?

If Win32 supports the BSD sockets API and the loopback device, it 
shouldn't be difficult to convert it to use that instead of a named
socket (it'll be slower though, since every packet will have to pass twice
through the TCP/IP stack). I would have thought the screen, mouse, and
keyboard drivers would be the difficult part of a Win32 port of Nano-X.
ISTR Greg saying that a Win32 port of the Microwindows API would be harder 
due to the problems caused by trying to provide an emulated Win32 API on
top of the real Win32 API (symbol clashes, etc.).

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