nanogui: Thread: GUI design tool for Nano-X?

How do folks design GUIs for Nano-X? Is there some kind of WYSIWYG tool 
or must one just write code and run it to see what it looks like?

Paul

I found NanoGTK 
(http://www.emsoftltd.com/products/listing/nanogtk_content.htm), but it 
appears to have been abandoned four years ago. Anybody use it? Any other 
alternatives? (Sorry for replying to myself.)

Paul

Paul Long wrote:
> How do folks design GUIs for Nano-X? Is there some kind of WYSIWYG 
> tool or must one just write code and run it to see what it looks like?
>
> Paul

: I found NanoGTK 
: (http://www.emsoftltd.com/products/listing/nanogtk_content.htm), but it 
: appears to have been abandoned four years ago. Anybody use it? Any other 
: alternatives? (Sorry for replying to myself.)

Paul - 

The guys at emsoft put quite a lot of work into nanogtk, and I
haven't heard anything since they first announced it...  Is their
source still available?  I pulled down the source some time
ago if you need it...  IIRC it didn't quite compile as it was
missing one header file, which I hacked up fairly quickly.

This would be a great project to bring back to life.  I didn't
place all their patches into Microwindows, but will should
anybody get interested in this project.  This is because
they added quite a few APIs, IIRC.

Regards,

Greg

Dear Greg,

I am interesting GUI design tools for Nano-X too. 
1) I found there are 3 tools available, they are Flnx, nxlib and
nanoGTK. I can find out the source code of Flnx-0.18 and nxlib-0.45, but
cannot download the source code of nanoGTK, could you please send it to
me if convenient?
2) Could you please give me a short comment of compared them? Do you
think which is more powerful and beautiful? :-)
I found that the widget style of Flnx-0.18 is not so beautiful, but
Fltk2.0 is very good looking. I don't know what about nxlib, since I
never compile successful so far, I will try later.
3) I am just wondering is it easy to port Fltk2.0 to Nano-X, and could
you please give me some suggestions?
BTW, could you please tell me who is the maintainer of Flnx? Maybe I can
get some helps from he.
Thanks for your kind help!

Best regards
Alex


On Thu, 2006-09-21 at 18:06 -0600, Greg Haerr wrote: 
> : I found NanoGTK 
> : (http://www.emsoftltd.com/products/listing/nanogtk_content.htm), but it 
> : appears to have been abandoned four years ago. Anybody use it? Any other 
> : alternatives? (Sorry for replying to myself.)
> 
> Paul - 
> 
> The guys at emsoft put quite a lot of work into nanogtk, and I
> haven't heard anything since they first announced it...  Is their
> source still available?  I pulled down the source some time
> ago if you need it...  IIRC it didn't quite compile as it was
> missing one header file, which I hacked up fairly quickly.
> 
> This would be a great project to bring back to life.  I didn't
> place all their patches into Microwindows, but will should
> anybody get interested in this project.  This is because
> they added quite a few APIs, IIRC.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Greg
> 
> 
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Dear All,

Can anybody help me to answer following questions? Thanks a lot!
Also, I really need the source code of NanoGTK, anyone can send it to me?

Alex

----- Original Message ----- 
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Subject: Re: [nanogui] GUI design tool for Nano-X?


> Dear Greg,
> 
> I am interesting GUI design tools for Nano-X too. 
> 1) I found there are 3 tools available, they are Flnx, nxlib and
> nanoGTK. I can find out the source code of Flnx-0.18 and nxlib-0.45, but
> cannot download the source code of nanoGTK, could you please send it to
> me if convenient?
> 2) Could you please give me a short comment of compared them? Do you
> think which is more powerful and beautiful? :-)
> I found that the widget style of Flnx-0.18 is not so beautiful, but
> Fltk2.0 is very good looking. I don't know what about nxlib, since I
> never compile successful so far, I will try later.
> 3) I am just wondering is it easy to port Fltk2.0 to Nano-X, and could
> you please give me some suggestions?
> BTW, could you please tell me who is the maintainer of Flnx? Maybe I can
> get some helps from he.
> Thanks for your kind help!
> 
> Best regards
> Alex
> 
> 
> On Thu, 2006-09-21 at 18:06 -0600, Greg Haerr wrote: 
>> : I found NanoGTK 
>> : (http://www.emsoftltd.com/products/listing/nanogtk_content.htm), but it 
>> : appears to have been abandoned four years ago. Anybody use it? Any other 
>> : alternatives? (Sorry for replying to myself.)
>> 
>> Paul - 
>> 
>> The guys at emsoft put quite a lot of work into nanogtk, and I
>> haven't heard anything since they first announced it...  Is their
>> source still available?  I pulled down the source some time
>> ago if you need it...  IIRC it didn't quite compile as it was
>> missing one header file, which I hacked up fairly quickly.
>> 
>> This would be a great project to bring back to life.  I didn't
>> place all their patches into Microwindows, but will should
>> anybody get interested in this project.  This is because
>> they added quite a few APIs, IIRC.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Greg
>> 
>> 
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FLTK 1.1.7 programs linked with nxlib-0.45 work fine with nano-X. 
I am sure FLTK 2.0 will do the same. If not, you can always modify nxlib to make it so.

Martin

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Dear All,

Can anybody help me to answer following questions? Thanks a lot!
Also, I really need the source code of NanoGTK, anyone can send it to me?

Alex

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From: "celeber2" ####@####.####
To: "Greg Haerr" ####@####.####
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Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: [nanogui] GUI design tool for Nano-X?


> Dear Greg,
> 
> I am interesting GUI design tools for Nano-X too. 
> 1) I found there are 3 tools available, they are Flnx, nxlib and
> nanoGTK. I can find out the source code of Flnx-0.18 and nxlib-0.45, but
> cannot download the source code of nanoGTK, could you please send it to
> me if convenient?
> 2) Could you please give me a short comment of compared them? Do you
> think which is more powerful and beautiful? :-)
> I found that the widget style of Flnx-0.18 is not so beautiful, but
> Fltk2.0 is very good looking. I don't know what about nxlib, since I
> never compile successful so far, I will try later.
> 3) I am just wondering is it easy to port Fltk2.0 to Nano-X, and could
> you please give me some suggestions?
> BTW, could you please tell me who is the maintainer of Flnx? Maybe I can
> get some helps from he.
> Thanks for your kind help!
> 
> Best regards
> Alex
> 
> 
> On Thu, 2006-09-21 at 18:06 -0600, Greg Haerr wrote: 
>> : I found NanoGTK 
>> : (http://www.emsoftltd.com/products/listing/nanogtk_content.htm), but it 
>> : appears to have been abandoned four years ago. Anybody use it? Any other 
>> : alternatives? (Sorry for replying to myself.)
>> 
>> Paul - 
>> 
>> The guys at emsoft put quite a lot of work into nanogtk, and I
>> haven't heard anything since they first announced it...  Is their
>> source still available?  I pulled down the source some time
>> ago if you need it...  IIRC it didn't quite compile as it was
>> missing one header file, which I hacked up fairly quickly.
>> 
>> This would be a great project to bring back to life.  I didn't
>> place all their patches into Microwindows, but will should
>> anybody get interested in this project.  This is because
>> they added quite a few APIs, IIRC.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Greg
>> 
>> 
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>

Hi Martin,

Thanks for your comment.
But, in my opinion, FLTK, Nxlib and GTK are compatible. So programs can run on all of them, but would be in different style I think. And I think FLTK2.0 is more beautiful than FLTK1.0.7. Since FLTK1.0.7 has been ported to Nano-X then rename to FLNX right now, so I just want to ported FLTK2.0 to Nano-X too.
Any comments?

Alex

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Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 11:36 PM
Subject: RE: [nanogui] GUI design tool for Nano-X?


FLTK 1.1.7 programs linked with nxlib-0.45 work fine with nano-X. 
I am sure FLTK 2.0 will do the same. If not, you can always modify nxlib to make it so.

Martin

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Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 8:29 AM
To: Greg Haerr
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Subject: Re: [nanogui] GUI design tool for Nano-X?


Dear All,

Can anybody help me to answer following questions? Thanks a lot!
Also, I really need the source code of NanoGTK, anyone can send it to me?

Alex

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From: "celeber2" ####@####.####
To: "Greg Haerr" ####@####.####
Cc: ####@####.####
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: [nanogui] GUI design tool for Nano-X?


> Dear Greg,
> 
> I am interesting GUI design tools for Nano-X too. 
> 1) I found there are 3 tools available, they are Flnx, nxlib and
> nanoGTK. I can find out the source code of Flnx-0.18 and nxlib-0.45, but
> cannot download the source code of nanoGTK, could you please send it to
> me if convenient?
> 2) Could you please give me a short comment of compared them? Do you
> think which is more powerful and beautiful? :-)
> I found that the widget style of Flnx-0.18 is not so beautiful, but
> Fltk2.0 is very good looking. I don't know what about nxlib, since I
> never compile successful so far, I will try later.
> 3) I am just wondering is it easy to port Fltk2.0 to Nano-X, and could
> you please give me some suggestions?
> BTW, could you please tell me who is the maintainer of Flnx? Maybe I can
> get some helps from he.
> Thanks for your kind help!
> 
> Best regards
> Alex
> 
> 
> On Thu, 2006-09-21 at 18:06 -0600, Greg Haerr wrote: 
>> : I found NanoGTK 
>> : (http://www.emsoftltd.com/products/listing/nanogtk_content.htm), but it 
>> : appears to have been abandoned four years ago. Anybody use it? Any other 
>> : alternatives? (Sorry for replying to myself.)
>> 
>> Paul - 
>> 
>> The guys at emsoft put quite a lot of work into nanogtk, and I
>> haven't heard anything since they first announced it...  Is their
>> source still available?  I pulled down the source some time
>> ago if you need it...  IIRC it didn't quite compile as it was
>> missing one header file, which I hacked up fairly quickly.
>> 
>> This would be a great project to bring back to life.  I didn't
>> place all their patches into Microwindows, but will should
>> anybody get interested in this project.  This is because
>> they added quite a few APIs, IIRC.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Greg
>> 
>> 
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I think you are confusing everything.
FLTK and GTK are graphics toolkits/libraries that allow easy program development on X11 windows. They look different but need X11.
If you link these programs with nxlib, you can run them on nano-X (instead of X11) and they will look the same as on X11.

You do not need to port FTLK to nano-X, just link the program with nxlib.
Ignore FLNX, it is obsolete (before nxlib).

Martin

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Hi Martin,

Thanks for your comment.
But, in my opinion, FLTK, Nxlib and GTK are compatible. So programs can run on all of them, but would be in different style I think. And I think FLTK2.0 is more beautiful than FLTK1.0.7. Since FLTK1.0.7 has been ported to Nano-X then rename to FLNX right now, so I just want to ported FLTK2.0 to Nano-X too.
Any comments?

Alex

Dear Martin,

Sorry! I just want to use Nano-X in my Embedded Linux system (Not X86 Arch).

And then, port some application based on GTK or FLTK to my system. So, I do
need a graphic library instead of GTK or FLTK to work with my application
and Nano－X on my system. I found Flnx can meet my request, but the widget
style is not so good looking.
My question is can Nxlib replace the GTK on my system?
I am trying to port Nxlib to my system but it get some errors.
Any suggestions! Thanks!

Alex

在06-9-27，Martin Kajdas ####@####.#### 写道：
>
> I think you are confusing everything.
> FLTK and GTK are graphics toolkits/libraries that allow easy program
> development on X11 windows. They look different but need X11.
> If you link these programs with nxlib, you can run them on nano-X (instead
> of X11) and they will look the same as on X11.
>
> You do not need to port FTLK to nano-X, just link the program with nxlib.
> Ignore FLNX, it is obsolete (before nxlib).
>
> Martin
>
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> Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 8:56 AM
> To: Martin Kajdas
> Cc: ####@####.####
> Subject: Re: [nanogui] GUI design tool for Nano-X?
>
>
> Hi Martin,
>
> Thanks for your comment.
> But, in my opinion, FLTK, Nxlib and GTK are compatible. So programs can
> run on all of them, but would be in different style I think. And I think
> FLTK2.0 is more beautiful than FLTK1.0.7. Since FLTK1.0.7 has been ported
> to Nano-X then rename to FLNX right now, so I just want to ported FLTK2.0to Nano-X too.
> Any comments?
>
> Alex
>

You are still confusing everything.
You can use GTK or FLTK or whatever library for X11.
Then just link it with nxlib to make it work with nano-X instead of X11.
Nxlib is a X11 to nano-X translator library and not a graphic library.
Martin

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Dear Martin,

Sorry! I just want to use Nano-X in my Embedded Linux system (Not X86 Arch). 
And then, port some application based on GTK or FLTK to my system. So, I do need a graphic library instead of GTK or FLTK to work with my application and Nano－X on my system. I found Flnx can meet my request, but the widget style is not so good looking. 
My question is can Nxlib replace the GTK on my system? 
I am trying to port Nxlib to my system but it get some errors.
Any suggestions! Thanks!

Alex